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Leigh Klotz: FAQ - Where can I get firefox 3.5 for Ubuntu?

nospam@example.com (Leigh Klotz) — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:57:54 +0100

I had to add this to /etc/apt/preferences. Otherwise it was stuck at 3.5.

Package: *
Pin: release o=LP-PPA-mozillateam-firefox-stable
Pin-Priority: 999

I already had this in there:
Package: *
Pin: release a=maverick-security
Pin-Priority: 990

Package: *
Pin: release a=maverick-updates
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=maverick-proposed
Pin-Priority: 400

Reg: FAQ - Where can I get firefox 3.5 for Ubuntu?

nospam@example.com (Reg) — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:14:22 +0200

I have Firefox 4.0b5 running on my Windows partition and I like it very much.
In particular Ad-Block plus works again and I would like to go to a 4.0 beta on Ubuntu.
I have downloaded the file for it and would like some instruction on how to install beta software – for those of us willing to take the risk(s), etc

ethnopunk: ubuntu network manager team offers daily builds for trunk (aka 0.8) now

nospam@example.com (ethnopunk) — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:26:07 +0200

Why can’t we get hold of trunk build in deb form to download for an offline machine?

David: ubuntu network manager team offers daily builds for trunk (aka 0.8) now

nospam@example.com (David) — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:45:02 +0100

Hi,

Latest trunk builds of Network Manager of this PPA are buggy. Network Manager is not able of obtaining a valid IP. Seems like dhcp is not properly called by NM.

Maybe the trunk ppa could make a new compiling from Network Manager source, so people don’t have to revert version of packages from trunk to branch.

If you agree please mail me.

Thanks.

M: ubuntu network manager team offers daily builds for trunk (aka 0.8) now

nospam@example.com (M) — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:12:36 +0100

I used the “add-apt-repository” command but when I check the “About” in Ubuntu 9.10 I still see 0.7.999 instead of 8.0RC4. How can this be?

Amar: FAQ - Where can I get firefox 3.5 for Ubuntu?

nospam@example.com (Amar) — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:24:31 +0100

To use Thunderbird’s latest version I installed Ubuntuzilla. But later I decided to with Ubuntu releases of Firefox and Thunderbird as the name, icons were changed to something I didn’t like. I removed Thunderbird. But in case of Firefox, it was in /opt after Ubuntuzilla install with disabled “check updates”. It was showing 3.5.6 where 3.5.7 is released. So removed Ubuntuzilla but update still didn’t work. I checked source list and removed repos for Ubuntuzilla and Mozilla-Daily ppa (repo) so that only Ubuntu updates will show in Synaptic. Which is mentioned as: (I think this is 3.5.7):

“firefox-3.5 3.5.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 safe and easy bro..”

Update still didn’t work (not even with system update).
Then tried a fresh Firefox install from repo and so removed /opt/firefox and also in other places. Even, “firefox” and “firefox-3.5” executables from /usr/bin/ and some files from other places. Cleaned my Firefox profile in ~/.mozilla, I have backed up my profile and settings. Installed firefox from the repo and it’s not working. May be because links were symlinked to the one in /opt/firefox/ and moreover I have removed “executables”, I am not sure.

How can I go back to original Firefox that came with my Ubuntu Live-CD? Cleaning the mess my stupid attempt might have created. Of course with the latest version available and also the updates should work with Ubuntu updates.

David Castañeda: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (David Castañeda) — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:17:08 +0100

I know this is a technical subject…

But when doing this, did you ever consider the final normal user??

A relative (who I recently convince of moving to Ubuntu) has to call me because HIS browser has disappeared. For the health of the Ubuntu ecosystem this kind of things should me more carefully considered.

Seegal Galguntijak: FAQ - Where can I get firefox 3.5 for Ubuntu?

nospam@example.com (Seegal Galguntijak) — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:05:16 +0100

Much more important is: How can one get SeaMonkey _2_ for Ubuntu? I know, there are crude methods like Ubuntuzilla, but it should be easily installable from the Ubuntu repositorys with apt. At least, I desperately hope it will be when Lucid is released! (I know, it couldn’t be in Karmic since it was released after Karmic’s freeze, which made me skip Karmic, but in Lucid – especially as an LTS version – it is an absolute must-have!)
Thanks!
sg

Brad Aisa: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (Brad Aisa) — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:04:28 +0200

The Linux/Unbuntu upgrade model is completely whacked! We have to wait for an entire new OS release to get the latest version of stuff, even stuff that will be very old and stale by that time? But I don’t want to upgrade my OS often, that always leads to issues (ex. driver modules stop working, VMWare stops working, etc. etc.). I am running XP on another computer here and virtually all software for Windows works on it, and I can upgrade to the latest version of anything at any time.

I am so sick of Linux that when my current project for school is finished I will probably swear off it forever.

DaveGK: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (DaveGK) — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:49:13 +0200

I must say I am unpleasantly surprised by this attitude. The “user is an idiot, we know best” approach is exactly why I left Windows/Microsoft …
As far as the branding – I had a stable and proper Firefox 3.5.2 version, with absolutely no problem, until it was completely messed up by your update. Now, when I try to go to one of the online banking sites, I get a message that this browser is not supported, and have to go through a few more clicks to override this warning. This is insane! Are you trying to scare users away?

Bill: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (Bill) — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:20:43 +0200

I don’t really care that it’s called Shiretoko (although I agree with everyone here who says that it’s moronic), but I do care that it presents its User Agent as something different from a normal install of Firefox 3.5. Because of this it breaks on many websites where it should actually work fine. Huge mistake!

Side-note: I went to www.firefox.com and was able to install the real/properly branded Firefox 3.5 from there. However, I notice that the version from firefox.com does not have smooth fonts like the Shiretoko version. Any ideas why?

To the developers: I appreciate that you are trying to make things “esay/consistent” to the end user, but if you are preventing the user from easily upgrading to a new (non-beta!) version of the most popular browser out there, then you have failed completely at your task. If your solution is to upgrade to the next version of the OS, then you have failed completely at your task. As others have mentioned, this is a no-brainer on any other OS. Sorry.

Sigh: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (Sigh) — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:01:30 +0200

Firefox 3.5 is a stable release, and Ubuntu provides no way to install it without hosing the system. In any other OS, it’s trivial to upgrade to the latest stable version, but not in Ubuntu. Firefox is certainly my most-used app, and I’m sure I’m not alone in that. This is a major usability fail. Preventing users from installing the latest versions of software for 6 months does not make a “stable user experience”. It makes a crappy user experience.

Using “firefox-3.0” for the executable and “Shiretoko” for the menus confuses people. Websites say they aren’t compatible with my browser. Clicking a link in any program other than Shiretoko opens the link in Firefox 3.0, not 3.5. AptURL links and other desktop integration features don’t work. Middle-clicking a link constantly gives an error telling me I pasted something that is not a link. Ubiquity is broken because it tries to load commands from both ~/.mozilla/firefox and ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.5. etc etc etc

I wonder if Google’s Chrome OS will finally get things right. I’d happily abandon Ubuntu if there were a better alternative available.

paran: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (paran) — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:14:02 +0200

I don’t see any comment here that suggest automatically upgrading
jaunty users to firefox-3.5.

This is about users of a stable Ubuntu release, that find a package
named firefox-3.5 in their package manager, and installs it. Should
they not expect a normal firefox 3.5?

There is absolutely nothing in the package description that suggest
that they are installing a development version. The package is not
named shiretoko-3.5. So the Shiretoko “branding” is very confusing,
for no good reason at all. The shiretoko user-agent will even break
some websites that work fine with the official one.

Telling people to upgrade to Karmic, an alpha release, to get a good
firefox-3.5 is just stupid.

SoundStrange2Me: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (SoundStrange2Me) — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:01:02 +0200

Post # 6 is right on the money! If you hold back users from updating then you are certainly not leading edge, user friendly…

“We will decide what is best for you!” but hey all my friends using windows get to use private browsing mode for all their porn, opps, I means private stuff…

I think this show how out of touch Linux is with the main stream. I run it on a variety of computer and discourage most people who ask about it from using it if they are not technically savvy as I do not want to become their computer support.

Yarko: FAQ - Why is my firefox 3.5 still called Shiretoko?

nospam@example.com (Yarko) — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:03:38 +0200

Maybe then that is the confusion – for other platforms (e.g. Fedora-10, Windows) Firefox 3.5 is the “normal” upgrade; so when I ask if I want to use 3.5 in my ubuntu, I assume the same is true there. It is not clear why this is “tech saavy” option on jaunty, and “normal Firefox upgrade” elsewhere in the universe.

Perhaps this is at the core of the problem.