IceLizard application names

Tuesday, October 10. 2006

Posted by asac (Alexander Sack) in Debian OS at 13:12 | Comments (13) | Trackbacks (0)

It might be obvious for most that follow recent discussions, but here are the names of our IceLizard applications, as we will probably ship in etch:

IceWeasel aka Firefox
IceDove, aka Thunderbird
IceApe aka SeaMonkey

Now we need some artwork … there is a great draft site in ubuntu wiki that looks quite promising: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IceWeaselIcon

Of course, no guarantees

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Just a suggestion:with so much great art, it would be a pity not to do some sort of votation to choose, so that the choice is community driven.

So what about making some sort of grand votation a suitable amount of time before the final choice, putting up a quick and dirty page with the icons and a poll?

#1 Krakatos on 2006-10-10 17:25 (Reply)

We will definitly consider the option to vote on it.

The problem about this is more a time constraint thing, rather than the will to make a voting.

In fact it would be best if we would have some kind of set of logos for the complete line (IceWeasel, IceDove, IceApe) and let the community vote on that.

Anyway, we have to bring something up really soon. Maybe the art we will choose will be an intermediate one, because of that time-constraint. Not perfect, but better than to have no art at all .

#1.1 asac (Homepage) on 2006-10-10 17:37 (Reply)

Why is Seamonkey going to be renamed? It is, as far as I am aware, no longer a MoFo project. Why would Mozilla trademark sillyness apply to it?

#2 Anonymous on 2006-10-11 11:01 (Reply)

... semonkey trademark is going to be owned (and thus legally enforced) by Mozilla Foundation.

#2.1 asac on 2006-10-11 11:36 (Reply)

The fact that the same entity holds two trademarks, does not imply that they are enforced in the same way. Do you also plan to rename libgecko*, libxul*, bugzilla, xulrunner, etc? Did MoFo complain about the way their Seamonkey trademark is used by Debian? If no, there is no reason to rename it.

#2.1.1 Anonymous on 2006-10-12 03:09 (Reply)

their track-record does not increase confidence that they will not change their mind in future. Nor does it increase confidence that they will care about our release cycle.

The rename is merely a defensive measure. We will observe their trademark handling carefully. Maybe we can get the confidence back we lost over the firefox dispute. But not for etch.

#2.1.1.1 asac (Homepage) on 2006-10-12 10:00 (Reply)

If you fear that they may start aggressively enforcing it, why don’t you simply ask them about it?

You may contact Frank Hecker (who deals with Seamonkey trademark in MoFo) and the Seamonkey Council, and inquire on their trademark policy.

#2.1.1.1.1 Anonymous on 2006-10-12 14:57 (Reply)

read my comment you replied to. It already includes the answer.

#2.1.1.1.1.1 asac (Homepage) on 2006-10-12 16:54 (Reply)

So, what did the Seamonkey Council answered about this issue ?

#2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Mothendur on 2006-10-26 17:50 (Reply)

And Mozilla Sunbird?

Today The Mozilla Calendar Project announced the release of
Sunbird and Lightning 0.3.
Calendar Weblog

I propose:
IceEagle, aka Sunbird

What about IceEagle (Sunbird) 0.3 in Etch? or in Sid?

PauLoX

#3 PauLoX (Homepage) on 2006-10-12 00:30 (Reply)

They don’t release sunbird from the same branch as firefox et al. Thus we cannot provide security. In consequence we cannot release sunbird to etch.

Anyway, will consider IceEagle before uploading Sunbird to sid. Anyway, this will happen after release of etch.

#3.1 asac (Homepage) on 2006-10-12 10:07 (Reply)

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

Look at that logo, and note the fact that a seamonkey isn’t a primate, seamonkey is a nickname for a type of shrimp. Accordingly, might I suggest calling the suite GhostShrimp instead of SeaMonkey? You can keep the glassy, icy icons if you do that

#4 Simon on 2006-10-15 21:10 (Reply)

IceApe is a very stupid name…
No links with the reptiles family
No links with the seamonkey animal (a shrimp).

Why not IceWyvern ? (Wyvern was a good candidate to be the new name of SeaMonkey)

#5 Fëaril on 2006-10-28 16:34 (Reply)

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